Megyn is joined by Ben Shapiro, author of Lions and Scavengers, to discuss the latest fallout in the Jeffrey Epstein and Trump administration story, Attorney General Pam Bondi’s mishandling of the Epstein files rollout, whether FBI Deputy Director Dan Bongino will leave the Trump administration over the issue, the confusion about the leaked Department of Justice memo, what we actually know was in the FBI’s Epstein files, whether the Trump administration needs to better explain the status, if they should release more information, whether Epstein worked with U.S. or Israeli intelligence, legitimate questions about Epstein’s prison death, and more.
Then, Michael Shellenberger, founder of Public on Substack, joins to discuss mounting pressure from Trump supporters in the MAGA movement for more Epstein transparency, the varying explanations for the way the Trump team has handled the Epstein story for the past week, why the DOJ and FBI may be shifting their messaging, backlash over the supposed Epstein prison footage, new reporting that former President Joe Biden only gave verbal approval on pardons, how his staff used the autopen without his direct oversight, how the pardon of Dr. Anthony Fauci relates to COVID accountability, and more.