A week after Tish Hyman went viral for confronting a biological man in the women’s locker room at her California gym, the Grammy-nominated artist is back in the headlines for confronting one of the lawmakers responsible for the law that allows it.
Hyman recently attended a town hall-style event with Democrat California State Senator Scott Wiener, where she put him on the spot about the safety concerns women face as a result of the Golden State’s transgender bathroom policy.
On Wednesday’s show, Megyn was joined by Batya Ungar-Sargon, host of Batya on NewsNation, to discuss the fiery back and forth and Wiener’s extreme history on the issue.
On Background
Earlier this month, Hyman posted a series of videos on social media in which she accused the Beverly Center Gold’s Gym, which was recently acquired by EoS Fitness, of revoking her membership after she complained multiple times about a ‘transgender woman’ using the women’s facilities and “harassing” female gym goers.
The person in question has since been identified as Alexis Black, a man formerly known as Grant Freeman who identifies as a ‘transgender woman’ and was convicted of assaulting his now-ex-wife while living in Ohio before beginning his ‘transition.’ The New York Post reported that Black pleaded guilty in 2022 to beating his then-wife in an attack that caused a compound jaw fracture among other injuries.
Hyman Confronts Wiener
Wiener, who is an outspoken advocate for trans rights, represents the San Francisco area in the California State Senate, but he has his sights set on Congresswoman Nancy Pelosi’s U.S. House seat when she retires at the end of her term next year.
California law requires businesses to allow patrons to use facilities that align with their gender identity, not their biological sex, a policy Hyman pressed Wiener on in this exchange she posted to X.
“As a lesbian woman who was attacked in the women’s locker room at Gold’s Gym this week by a self-identifying trans woman with a documented history of domestic violence, I’m deeply concerned about women’s safety in female-only spaces,” she said from the front row. “What would you say to women who are seeking assurance that their safety will be protected from men, who, by California law, can self-identify as women in women-only spaces. Sir, please tell me.”
Wiener tried to placate Hyman with a word salad about wanting safe spaces for everyone. “Yeah, so we want, I mean, everyone, to be safe,” he stammered. “And we also know that we have trans people, both men and women, who are men and women. And so, you know, we, so if you’re– trans women are women.”
But Hyman wasn’t having it. “And I’m telling you as a woman, first and foremost, that this is dangerous and we need your help. Because you’re in the office, you’re going to go into Pelosi’s spot, I want to support you. I have millions of people behind me watching this, right now, and we want to know: Are you going to protect women – not trans women, women,” she asked. “Listen, we need to protect women’s safety. I was assaulted.”
When people in the crowd began booing and shouting “trans women are women,” Hyman stood her ground. “No, they are not. They are men. I was assaulted by men. He broke his wife’s jaw so bad she needed reconstructive surgery,” she replied. “I’m a lesbian. I’m not transphobic. And I’m black, so if there’s another black woman in here who wants to tell me how they feel, please join in. But all of you are not. And I don’t know who you are or what you are, but I’m a lesbian, and I’m telling you right now, men are harassing women in the locker rooms.”
Hyman then returned the floor to Wiener who claimed to “appreciate her point of view” and be “so sorry” she was harassed, before rehashing the same talking point about gender identity. “I think we need to protect the safety of all women, and obviously that’s incredibly important,” he said. “And I also know that trans women are also brutalized in this country. So women– and cisgender women are brutalized in this country. And we have to protect the safety of all women.”
Once again, that did not sit well with Hyman. “We have to protect women. We cannot be raped in the bathrooms by men that want to say they’re women, they’re not women. They’re not women,” she declared as she stood up to leave.
When the moderator told her she didn’t have to leave, Hyman said that, despite supporting Wiener on other issues, she did not find him sincere on this one. “I am leaving because you know what? You guys are not protecting women,” she railed. “You’re doing a lot. The bills that you’re passing for the law, I read a lot of them, they’re great. But this thing with the trans, it’s not.”
Standing Her Gound
Ungar-Sargon called the clip “so therapeutic to watch” because of the way Hyman handled the situation. “It played out exactly as you would have wanted it to,” she said. “At every step, she just spoke the truth. And everybody around her trying to gaslight her the way they’ve tried to gaslight the nation was totally silenced by just the starkness of the truth that she was speaking. She took on that whole room and silenced them for booing her.”
The reaction of the crowd, Megyn said, felt like getting “a view into what’s happening on Saturn” because it is hard to understand how a community – even in deep blue San Francisco – can still hold those views on radical gender ideology.
“How are these LGBs not realizing that the TQs are bizarre, are not part of the same universe, and are undermining their youth. They’re trying to convert little gay boys into girls because they other-ize homosexuality as something that is so disgusting they have to erase it by turning a gay boy into a female,” she explained. “They’re the enemy, and Scott Weiner is the enemy. He has never seen a child who he wouldn’t trans, if the kid expresses a modicum of gender confusion. That’s clear to me from reading this guy’s bills and seeing the way he has behaved in California. He is disgusting.”
Megyn noted that Hyman appeared to be wearing a sweatshirt from Jennifer Sey’s XX-XY Athletics line, which stems from a basic biological reality that she said Wiener could stand to learn a thing or two about. “There is no such thing as making an XY an XX, and everyone knows it,” she said.
Defeating Wiener
With Pelosi’s House seat now up for grabs, Megyn said it is imperative that a moderate alternative to Wiener emerge as a contender. “There is no way a Republican can win in that district, but there has got to be a more reasonable Democrat… who is going to look out for the LGBs and reject the TQ insanity,” she said. “And I might, for the first time in my life, actually make a big donation to such a person, if they exist.”
“I’m telling you, this is the number one most dangerous lawmaker when it comes to this issue – the number one. We have been following him for years,” Megyn concluded. “We can do no worse than Scott Weiner. He must be defeated at the ballot box. He must be.”
You can check out Megyn’s full interview with Ungar-Sargon by tuning in to episode 1,192 on YouTube, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you like to listen. And don’t forget that you can catch The Megyn Kelly Show live on SiriusXM’s The Megyn Kelly Channel (channel 111) weekdays from 12pm to 2pm ET.